Revisiting the Milgram Experiments

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Revisit fundamental principle

We are always under environmental control
So…
When are NOT being obedient?
When

Revisit fundamental principle We are always under environmental control So… When are
are NOT under stimulus control?

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Observable, tangible evidence

Clothes
Are you wearing any?
Why?
For their function?
For their style?

Observable, tangible evidence Clothes Are you wearing any? Why? For their function? For their style?

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Clothes are relevant because…?

Empirical proof of:
Culture
Shared culture
Controlling agencies
And…obedience

Clothes are relevant because…? Empirical proof of: Culture Shared culture Controlling agencies And…obedience

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Milgram got it almost right

Different orientation
Reliance on agentic-autonomous approach
Much of his interpretation

Milgram got it almost right Different orientation Reliance on agentic-autonomous approach Much
is commensurate with behavior analysis

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What is culture?

"...all the variables affecting him [a person] which are arranged

What is culture? "...all the variables affecting him [a person] which are
by other people” (p. 419).
“...culture…is...enormously complex and extraordinarily powerful” (p. 419).

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What make it so powerful?

“Behavior comes to conform to the standards of

What make it so powerful? “Behavior comes to conform to the standards
a given community…”(p. 415).
“…the community extends the classification of ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ to certain forms of behavior” (p. 417).
“…shape [this]…behavior to group standards are powerful” (p. 418).

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Relevance?

“’Right’ and ‘wrong’ eventually have the force of ‘conforming’ and ‘non-conforming’” (p.

Relevance? “’Right’ and ‘wrong’ eventually have the force of ‘conforming’ and ‘non-conforming’”
418).
“Instances of behavior which are nonconforming, but not otherwise aversive to the group are henceforth treated as if they were aversive” (p. 418).

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Cultural control

“...social stimuli are important because the social reinforcers with which they

Cultural control “...social stimuli are important because the social reinforcers with which
are correlated are also important” (p.302)‏
“...imitation may be so skillful...that we are likely to attribute it to some special mode of interpersonal contact...(p. 304).

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Controlling agencies

Government and Law
Religion
Psychotherapy
Economic Control
Education

Controlling agencies Government and Law Religion Psychotherapy Economic Control Education

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Characteristics of controlling agencies

“...controlling agencies manipulate particular sets of variables (p. 333)”
“...the

Characteristics of controlling agencies “...controlling agencies manipulate particular sets of variables (p.
total culture, in which all our controlling agencies and all other features of the social environment work together simultaneously and with a single effect (p. 334).”

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Establishment of obedience

“…the controlled individual is obedient to the dictates of the

Establishment of obedience “…the controlled individual is obedient to the dictates of
agency if he behaves in conformity with its controlling practices” (p. 338)‏

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Relevance?

“By establishing obedient behavior, the controlling agency prepares for future occasions which

Relevance? “By establishing obedient behavior, the controlling agency prepares for future occasions
it cannot foresee and for which an explicit repertoire, cannot, therefore, be prepare in advance…
When novel occasions arise to which the individual possess no response, he simply does what he is told.” (p.338)‏

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Relevance to Milgram?

The individual subjects were predisposed to obedience due to prior

Relevance to Milgram? The individual subjects were predisposed to obedience due to
learning history and the situational stimuli of the lab.
It is less of a surprise that so many people obeyed and more of a surprise that more people didn't given the extent to which controlling agencies regulate human behavior.

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Relevance to Milgram?

Those that dissented and disobeyed did so because of the

Relevance to Milgram? Those that dissented and disobeyed did so because of
control of some agency, because it is not possible to do so otherwise.

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Milgram’s Misses

Free will
Willing obedience
Independent entities
Able to define situations
Give self over to authority

Milgram’s Misses Free will Willing obedience Independent entities Able to define situations

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Agreements

Moral ideals are inseparable from obedient attitude
Demand for obedience, only consistent element

Agreements Moral ideals are inseparable from obedient attitude Demand for obedience, only
across variety of commands
Use of “rewards” when compliant
Situational stimuli are crucial
Experimenter becomes SD

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Agreements

Situational obligations
Context is important
Avoidance as negative reinforcement for continued shocks
Physical presence of

Agreements Situational obligations Context is important Avoidance as negative reinforcement for continued
experimenter

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Unacknowledged agreements

Subject is bound by authority system
“Ordinary men” were not SD's for

Unacknowledged agreements Subject is bound by authority system “Ordinary men” were not
administration of shocks
“Internalization” of social order
Internalized basis for obedience
Acceptance of ideology of legitimate authority

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Unacknowledged agreements

Agentic state is the “...mental organization which enhances the likelihood of

Unacknowledged agreements Agentic state is the “...mental organization which enhances the likelihood
obedience.”
Obedience is the behavioral aspect of that state
Transformation to the agentic state is only partial for those who “disobeyed.”
Disobedience is transfer of stimulus control

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Discussion

Culture and other people are always source of and under social-environmental control.
We

Discussion Culture and other people are always source of and under social-environmental
are obedient to something all of the time.

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Discussion

We need to appreciate more fully the impact of controlling agencies and

Discussion We need to appreciate more fully the impact of controlling agencies
culture in daily life as we are not the ones who are controlling much of it.
Propaganda plays a significant role in determining our behavior.

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Real question is...

Not necessarily who is controlling the controllers (they are being

Real question is... Not necessarily who is controlling the controllers (they are
controlled by contingencies), but who is controlling the variables that are in the environment?
S/he who controls the environment, controls the population.
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